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## [Surviving the post-AI economy](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/calum-chace)

 Posted by [Mike Walsh](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/author/mike-walsh)

 Aug 27, 2018 7:00:28 AM

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One of the most interesting and controversial topics today is the potential impact of AI on employment, economics and politics. Calum Chace has written a number of bestselling books on these topics including ‘Surviving AI’ and ‘The Economic Singularity’. We met up in London to talk about the broader social consequences of superintelligence, the merits of a Universal Basic Income, and how the concept of work and employment might radically change in the future.

 

 CATEGORY: [Leadership](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/leadership), [Technology](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/technology)

## [The power and politics of Big Tech](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/lucie-greene)

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 Aug 20, 2018 4:58:25 PM

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The platforms and devices provided by Big Tech pervade every aspect of our private and public lives. They promise a more efficient, social and entertaining world, but how far should we trust this new algorithmic oligarchy with our future? Author and futurist Lucie Greene has spent the last few years studying this question for her book, ‘Silicon States’. I caught up with her in New York to discuss what drives these organizations, and what might happen when they move beyond social media and search, to reinventing other sectors like space travel, education, finance or the housing market.

 

 CATEGORY: [Leadership](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/leadership), [Technology](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/technology)

## [Will AI be the end of the radiologist?](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/hugh-harvey)

 Posted by [Mike Walsh](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/author/mike-walsh)

 Aug 13, 2018 6:54:16 PM

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Geoffrey Hinton, one of the world’s most renowned computer scientists has argued that ‘we should stop training radiologists right now’, and that as a result of AI, most would be out of a job within 5 years. But is this really true? Dr Hugh Harvey has a unique perspective on this question, having worked both sides of the fence - both as consultant radiologist, and also as leader in the AI space first at Babylon Health, and currently as the Clinical Lead at Kheiron Medical. Catching up with Hugh in London, I was keen to find out about the impact of algorithms on employment in the healthcare space, and what it might mean to be a radiologist in the 21st century.

 

 CATEGORY: [Leadership](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/leadership), [Healthcare](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/healthcare)

## [The algorithmic healthcare revolution](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/ali-parsa-2018)

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 Jul 30, 2018 10:14:07 AM

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Ali Parsa is a fascinating leader and entrepreneur. Founder of [Babylon Health](https://www.babylonhealth.com/), a company that is working with algorithms and AI to reinvent the healthcare industry, Ali has been both an influential and provocative figure at the intersection of medicine, business and technology. A few years ago, he was an early guest on the [Between Worlds podcast](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/ali-parsa). Since then, Babylon has expanded globally to Africa and China - as well as achieving significant advances with their own AI systems. I caught up with Ali again to learn more about his early experiences fleeing Iran as a child, where AI-first healthcare is going next, and what it takes to design successful, algorithmic organizations.

 

 CATEGORY: [Leadership](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/leadership), [Healthcare](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/healthcare)

## [Designing organizations for AI](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/daniel-hulme)

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 Jun 18, 2018 2:20:37 PM

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Daniel, a British expert on AI and machine learning, founded Satalia, one of the world’s first companies that brought algorithms from the academic world, into practical application at organizations. He has a Masters and Doctorate in Artificial Intelligence from UCL, lecturing in Computer Science and Business, and has spoken everywhere from TED to the Singularity University. We caught up in Soho, London to discuss the latest developments in AI, the new kinds of people that algorithmic organizations will need to hire, and his own experiments in designing a management model without traditional KPIs and hierarchies.

 

 CATEGORY: [Leadership](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/leadership), [Technology](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/technology)

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