--- title: Between Worlds (9) description: Weekly conversations over coffee with some of the world's leading thinkers, innovators and troublemakers (9) --- [![Mike Walsh | Blog Logo Faded Green](https://www.mike-walsh.com/hs-fs/file-722221720-jpg/new-img/blog-mw-logo.jpg?width=134&name=blog-mw-logo.jpg "Mike Walsh | Blog Logo Faded Green")](https://www.mike-walsh.com) [Book Mike](https://mike-walsh.hs-sites.com/book-mike) - [ABOUT](https://www.mike-walsh.com/about-mike-walsh) - [SPEAKING](https://www.mike-walsh.com/speaking) - [TOPICS](https://www.mike-walsh.com/topics) - [VIDEOS](https://www.youtube.com/user/michaelwalsh) - [PODCAST](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast) - [BLOG](https://www.mike-walsh.com/blog) ## [Building the retail AI stack](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/jason-hosking) Posted by [Mike Walsh](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/author/mike-walsh) May 6, 2019 3:11:00 PM - [Tweet](https://twitter.com/share) ![Jason Hosking](https://www.mike-walsh.com/hs-fs/hubfs/images/Between%20Worlds/Jason%20Hosking.jpg?width=5862&name=Jason%20Hosking.jpg)   I met Jason in Las Vegas while speaking at the National Automatic Merchandising Association show. The vending industry is uniquely placed to be a testing ground for the intersection of data, consumer behavior and autonomous retail solutions. Jason, who is the CEO of AI startup Hivery was originally selected as part of an innovation accelerator organized by the Coca-Cola Company in Atlanta. Tasked to take Coke assets and create a new business model, they came up with an AI platform designed to transform retail decision making. Catching up backstage in Vegas, we spoke about the future of machine learning, and what it might take to build a complete retail AI technology stack.   CATEGORY: [Retail](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/retail), [Technology](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/technology) ## [Avoiding the steampunk automation trap](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/george-kaczmarskyj) Posted by [Mike Walsh](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/author/mike-walsh) Apr 28, 2019 5:45:45 PM - [Tweet](https://twitter.com/share) ![George Kaczmarskyj](https://www.mike-walsh.com/hs-fs/hubfs/images/Between%20Worlds/George%20Kaczmarskyj.jpg?width=5466&name=George%20Kaczmarskyj.jpg)   Robotic process automation is a tempting proposition for many leaders: who wouldn’t want the ability to replace your processes with cheap algorithms that can run 24/7? However, the real benefit of automation is not efficiency or cost-savings, but the opportunity to rethink your entire operating model. I spoke recently with some of EY’s automation clients in New York, and one of the most interesting chats I had was with George Kaczmarskyj, a principal within EY’s Financial Services advisory practice, who leads Robotics and Intelligent Automation for Americas Financial Services. In this episode about the future of automation, we spoke about the similarities with the early days of electricity when companies also struggled to reinvent their paradigm and business models.   CATEGORY: [Leadership](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/leadership), [Technology](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/technology) ## [The unexpected economics of the data-driven future](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/rob-tercek) Posted by [Mike Walsh](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/author/mike-walsh) Mar 26, 2019 5:26:08 PM - [Tweet](https://twitter.com/share) ![Rob Tercek](https://www.mike-walsh.com/hs-fs/hubfs/images/Between%20Worlds/Rob%20Tercek.jpg?width=5976&name=Rob%20Tercek.jpg)   Rob Tercek is a fascinating thinker and futurist. His most recent book, VAPORIZED: Solid Strategies for Success In A Dematerialized World, was selected as a winner for the 2016 International Book of the Year by GetAbstract. I met Rob a number of years ago at the METal networking events in LA. As a pioneering executive for MTV, Sony and OWN, as well as an entrepreneur in disruptive startup ventures, Rob has long been at the forefront of critical thinking about the digital world. Meeting up at LACMA, we discussed a wide range of topics from placeless innovation to the challenge of tech-driven inequality, the myth of perpetual growth to algorithmic management, smart contracts to the economic fallout from a data-driven future.   CATEGORY: [Innovation](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/innovation), [Media & Entertainment](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/media-entertainment) ## [Ethical AI and the digitally transformed insurance company of the future](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/phil-armstrong) Posted by [Mike Walsh](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/author/mike-walsh) Mar 19, 2019 6:44:15 PM - [Tweet](https://twitter.com/share) ![Phil Armstrong](https://www.mike-walsh.com/hs-fs/hubfs/images/Between%20Worlds/Phil%20Armstrong.jpg?width=5976&name=Phil%20Armstrong.jpg)   Despite being one most traditional and conservative sectors in the world, insurance is a sector primed for digital transformation and reinvention through AI. I met Phil Armstrong, the Global Chief Information Officer and Executive Vice-President at The Great-West Life Assurance Company while speaking at event for them in Toronto. Great West Life is a 32 billion dollar financial services holding company with interests in the life insurance, health insurance, investment and retirement savings, and reinsurance businesses. Armstrong has been a key driver of adopting automation to transform their operating model, and we spoke about the challenges of embracing AI while maintaining legacy platforms, digital ethics, his vision for a ‘factory of bots’, and the new kinds of algorithmic talent that companies will need to thrive in this environment.   CATEGORY: [Technology](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/technology), [Insurance](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/insurance) ## [Finding your pathway to growth](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/tiffani-bova) Posted by [Mike Walsh](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/author/mike-walsh) Mar 5, 2019 12:23:02 AM - [Tweet](https://twitter.com/share) ![tiffani_bova](https://www.mike-walsh.com/hs-fs/hubfs/images/Between%20Worlds/tiffani_bova.jpg?width=2700&name=tiffani_bova.jpg)   I met Tiffani a number of years ago when we were both speaking to an audience of business leaders focused on digital transformation. I was struck by her pragmatic message around navigating the difficult choices that surround achieving sustainable growth, and was keen to interview her for my show. Tiffani is the Global Customer Growth and Innovation Evangelist at Salesforce. Prior to that she spent ten years at Gartner as a distinguished analyst and research fellow. Catching up with her in Los Angeles recently, we spoke about her latest book, ‘Growth IQ’, and what leaders need to be thinking about today as they plan their next smart move.   CATEGORY: [Innovation](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/innovation), [Leadership](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/leadership) [Previous](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/page/8) [All posts](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/all) [Next](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/page/10) [![Subscribe to Between Worlds Podcast](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/87597/bcf65355-d89c-4ac2-8465-c1ab519c45d3.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/87597/bcf65355-d89c-4ac2-8465-c1ab519c45d3) ### Latest Episodes ### Topics - [Technology (53)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/technology) - [Leadership (45)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/leadership) - [Innovation (32)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/innovation) - [Marketing (27)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/marketing) - [Global (25)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/global) - [Culture (19)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/culture) - [Healthcare (13)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/healthcare) - [Media & Entertainment (13)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/media-entertainment) - [Talent (12)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/talent) - [Arts & Culture (11)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/arts-culture) - [Customers (11)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/customers) - [Retail (9)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/retail) - [Design (7)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/design) - [Consulting (6)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/consulting) - [Financial Services (6)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/financial-services) - [AI (5)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/ai) - [Government (5)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/government) - [Luxury (5)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/luxury) - [Venture Capital (5)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/venture-capital) - [Education (4)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/education) - [Legal (4)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/legal) - [Research (4)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/research) - [Aerospace & Defense (3)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/aerospace-defense) - [Beauty & Wellness (3)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/beauty-wellness) - [Finance (3)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/finance) - [Gaming (3)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/gaming) - [HR (3)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/hr) - [Manufacturing (3)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/manufacturing) - [Energy (2)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/energy) - [Insurance (2)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/insurance) - [Meetings & Events (2)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/meetings-events) - [Travel (2)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/travel) - [Banking (1)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/banking) - [Cybersecurity (1)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/cybersecurity) - [Events & Meetings (1)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/events-meetings) - [Interviews (1)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/interviews) - [Pharmaceutical (1)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/pharmaceutical) - [Real Estate (1)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/real-estate) - [Telecommunications (1)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/telecommunications) - [Transport & Logistics (1)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/transport-logistics) - [United Kingdom (1)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/united-kingdom) - [xr (1)](https://www.mike-walsh.com/podcast/topic/xr) ### SUBSCRIBE TO MIKE'S NEWSLETTER ### LATEST INSIGHTS © 2026 TOMORROW® | [CONTACT US](https://mike-walsh.hs-sites.com/contact-mike) | [PRIVACY POLICY](https://www.mike-walsh.com/privacy-policy) [LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelwalsh)[Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/mikejlwalsh)[Twitter](https://twitter.com/mikewalsh)[Youtube](https://www.youtube.com/user/michaelwalsh/)